Another very special episode. This time, Lou chats to Australia's national treasure, Maggie Dent! Lou learns that Maggie's key early intuitions led her to a deep understanding for our neurodivergent youth, their strengths, challenges and their need for our support and understanding, especially when they are at school. Maggie shares some very moving and heartfelt stories of her experiences as a teacher and parent over the years and the connections she's been able to form with young neurodivergent people that she has met along her own journey of acceptance and care for our community. Lou challenges Maggie to help her understand the exasperation of yet another setback in the wake of Minister Alan Tudge's recent speech with its "behaviourist overtones". Maggie explains that she has been trying to convince Australia's politicians about what's needed for years and the two lament that it feels like a mammoth task at times. It's a wonderful discussion between two mums who deeply care and want to help neurodivergent youth.